Yes, I got that point too, from women taking the directors program. Most men have never taken the board of governors programs, yet they get on to boards. Now women seem to need them. That's maybe just a fact of life that we need to live with.
Ms. Archer, I thought that you brought us some valuable information today.
I looked up your program, because I had only heard a bit about it in the past, and realized that the federal government gave you $2.5 million to get the centre established. I was happy to see that, as well as some ongoing funding for some of your technology that helps people take this program at more of a distance.
What I saw too is that it has been effective with aboriginal women. I wonder if you could tell us how you're getting them in, what the retention factors are like, and whether enough women are aware that this program exists.