My goodness, when you're trying to tackle an issue of that size, the ultimate indicators are slow in moving, so what we would like to see is more discussion, maybe before we even get to a point of more reporting. Those are the types of measurements by which we can see how many schools are implementing programs, how many boys and girls clubs, YMCAs, etc., are implementing programs. There are a number of players, so it's a matter of the direct influence we have and the indirect influence we have. Ultimately we hope to see some movement on these very large indicators, such as the rates of experiences of violence.
I'm not sure this is a very satisfactory answer, but it is extremely difficult at this point to claim any significant shift in the data in terms of reductions in rates of violence.