There's one thing I would add around sentencing and rehabilitation that we think about when we look at the spectrum of engaging men. We don't work in particular with men who have used violence, but I know from colleagues who do that work that unlike domestic violence, interpersonal violence, where a number of provinces have diversionary programs that work to rehabilitate men who have used violence, there's no such equivalent for men who've perpetrated crimes of sexual violence. Sending them to prison is purely punitive and does nothing for rehabilitative purposes.
In terms of one gap that we're in conversations about with some of our colleagues in this work, there is nothing for men who have perpetrated sexual violence. In fact, there's no diversionary programs even for groups of men, like the dental students at Dalhousie. A prison sentence is probably not what's appropriate for those particular men, but some kind of remediation, some kind of rehabilitation, is probably very much required. There's nothing out there for men in those situations at the moment.