Unfortunately, I have not been part of any of the projects where men have participated in a mentor capacity, if they have perpetrated violence or if they have had experience with family violence in their family unit. But I definitely feel that could be potentially a good model. We haven't seen that. It does happen informally. We know that.
In the men's support groups or in the mandated programs—counselling programs where they're supposed to go for long-term counselling when they are perpetrators—I know that those relationships are built among them in those settings. It is happening informally for sure, but I haven't come across any programs so far.