I think it's her too, but it shows the importance of starting. Who knew? Maybe it's because of grade 5. Maybe it's because of that teacher who maybe got trained by you on how to do these interesting extra pieces in the classroom.
I think it was you who mentioned STEAM. I was just at Balmoral Hall last week because they had the world map. It was so fascinating and wonderful to talk to these young women. I learned there that it was STEAM instead of STEM. I guess it doesn't matter what the label is in terms of how we make the difference. Frankly, and with the utmost respect, Saira, regarding your comment that you have to tell them, you don't tell teenage daughters what to do, or it's at your peril. You have to present the opportunities that they will then choose to embrace. How do we do that in the context of the missed efficiencies that you said are prevalent in this?