Thank you all for the presentations today. I think I'll start off with Tammy Evans, if I could.
Tammy, you made a comment in response to Mr. Barlow's question, and you said that the information isn't getting out. Somehow people are not receiving the information that they need in order to have uptake on some of the programs.
Regarding advertising, there have been some very critical remarks made about the type of advertising that is done to support government programs and so on, saying it's self-serving and those sorts of things. I'm hearing quite the opposite here, that we need to get those programs out there for people, for the uptake, and I'm very grateful to hear that because it's certainly something that I'm going to take to heart and advocate that we do more for. I really appreciate those comments.
With respect to the ladies here from Irving, there were some comments about early pathways, getting in there when they're quite young, the Techsploration and grade nine girls. I think Doreen might have been the one who spoke about that. Can you expand on how young...? You're talking about grade nine, and then we have other comments here saying that this should occur at the elementary level, and we've had this discussion with several groups who have presented.
Is grade nine the base that you've been achieving or are you trying to go a little bit lower in age?