We've talked about some of the barriers, and I know the Auditor General's report pointed out some of those, the lack of data.... You can't act on something if you don't have the desegregated data. Sometimes there isn't the capacity, or the training, and with the timelines sometimes you're under pressure to turn something around quickly.
The one I'm most concerned about is that we heard from other witnesses about the need to have a culture. For instance, in the Department of Immigration, they have champions, they have functional authorities, and then beneath the champions they have other champions. It's not enough in terms of having a focal point for reporting. They also have people who will promote. They called it the carrot and the stick.
I notice you have about 38 GBARs. Are these similar to champions, and is there any discussion between departments on these kinds of best practices?