In ESDC we have a network. We have a centre of expertise, which includes a range of tools and supports. We also have a person half time who plays an important role in pulling things together. We will be putting a champion in place for support, and some of these things we've picked up. There is a network across government of GBA experts, so we do share. I used to work at INAC and had carriage of the GBA file there. I brought some of those practices with me into ESDC.
There's a lot of sharing that happens across, and the thematics on the barriers are fairly consistent across departments. We do share ways to move through it, and I think Nicole's point about moving it into the program areas, and enabling them to own it, is a very important piece of changing the culture and ensuring that people take it on and not see it as something that a central group will do for them. That's key, but of course with that, you have to have the monitoring. You have to have the attention to the delivery of the product, and that's where the accountability is crucial.