I think that when you go to a mandatory system, sometimes it gets everybody's backs up so much that they don't want to comply. So when we first thought about it in 2005, we thought that it would be a second step if the first stage hadn't worked; but clearly, we're at 2016, and it hasn't worked. I think mandatory compliance is important.
I obviously have the same feelings about GBA as our last speaker. I actually have never thought about doing a gender-based analysis that didn't look at gender in terms of not just how women relate to men, and that relational set of structures, but also at how women relate to each other, because that's also very important. So for me, that has always been part of gender-based analysis, and where age works, where youth works, where family relationships link into that, I think there's a lot there that we can still keep under GBA, because I think it should come under GBA. It just needs to be done in a different way. I think that once you have people who do understand through that, that we're not just talking about sex.... It's not 15 men and 35 women; oh, we're doing really well. It's really about the relational structure. It's really about where on that graph we move towards equality.
We might differ about what it's called, but I think we need a much wider and more comprehensive approach to capturing how we live with each other, how we relate to each other, whether it's women to women, women to men, men to men, because without that, we really don't know very much about gender.
And yes, it needs to be mandatory.