I guess my somewhat flippant answer is more for Billy Bush than Donald Trump at the moment, because he was fired, but that's a recent thing and not very good accountability. It's not just the Trump effect, although that's such an obvious one, but it's the importance of role models in society, and that is true not just in matters of sexualized violence but also in the area of cyber-bullying.
Who are these kind of larger-than-life figures who have a significant following and how are they accountable? They're not terribly accountable. They're not terribly accountable, in part, because not only is it not sanctioned, it's supported in many ways, and sort of valued as part of entertainment. I think that's really a theme from some of your earlier witnesses and all three of us here that what is needed is a culture change on the whole issue around sexual violence, that it's not a joke; it is a very serious matter.
There is some form, whether people like the terminology or not, of rape culture out there, and until we address that at all levels, you're not going to be able to do it only at universities. I agree with Ms. Chambers' point that universities should be leaders and should be models in leading this kind of thing, but they are one segment, a very important one but not the only one.