I know that the committee has heard about the legislated requirement of the Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada report on gender in its annual report to Parliament on immigration levels.
What we notice in those gender-based analyses is that they're very good at giving desegregated data, but they don't necessarily take it to the next step to say, “Then, knowing what we know, what should we do?” That's getting back, again, to that cultural change.
We want more than the departments to say, “Well, it will affect these women this way, and these woman this way”, or “We know that 36% of women experience this, and 42% of men experience that”. It's important, for sure, to have the data and it's a great step, but what we want is to actually have GBA applied. We want people to be looking at their decisions through the lens of gender. We don't just want them reporting out on what the impacts are, but also on what those mitigating strategies are. Will they change policy?
In order to do that, as I said earlier, it does require a shift in culture. We're trying to work, for example, with departments now at the conceptual idea of programs and policies and approaches because, in fact, when you lay on the GBA at the end, quite frankly, it is very late in the game and sometimes unavoidable in terms of the impacts on women.
What we want to see is that departments progressively move towards using gender-based analysis at the conceptual stage. That's why—