Evidence of meeting #4 for Status of Women in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was gba.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Nancy Cheng  Assistant Auditor General, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
Richard Domingue  Principal, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Andrea McCaffrey

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Have you seen the information?

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

I have it in front of me.

If it would be appropriate to do that at this time, I wouldn't have a problem doing that.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Anita Vandenbeld Liberal Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

I would just make a friendly amendment to the motion.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

I would be in agreement with that.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Ms. Malcolmson and then Ms. Vandenbeld.

4:40 p.m.

NDP

Sheila Malcolmson NDP Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

I think it was really clear at our steering committee meeting and then at the opening of this meeting that we're not doing “green bananas” as you call it in other work. We were handed these motions five minutes before the meeting. That's not 48 hours. I don't think they can be discussed today.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Ms. Vandenbeld.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Anita Vandenbeld Liberal Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

Can I just get clarification from the clerk about the tabled motion?

If we're talking about committee business now, and there was a motion that tabled having to do with committee business at the end of the last meeting, if the mover of that motion wishes to bring that motion forward now, and now there's a friendly amendment in terms of the text here, would she therefore be allowed to bring that motion forward, and then amend it?

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Because at the steering team meeting we made a specific point about making sure that people had enough time to consider things, I think that's a fundamentally important principle.

I don't vote, so the fact that I haven't seen it, is neither here nor there. But Ms. Malcolmson has not seen it. I don't think that this is a fair thing.

For this general motion, I'm interested in you weighing in on this.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Sure. Sorry, I certainly did not mean to cause any sort of dissension, quite the opposite actually. I'm interested in working as a unified team going forward and certainly want to work with you on this.

That said, I think in light of the fact that Ms. Malcolmson has not seen this, I do believe that it's in the best interest of this committee in working collaboratively going forward that we put this on hold. At this point in time I will not bring my motion back to the table and I will not make an amendment to it. Let's give this some time and due process and then let's come back and collaborate as a team.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Ms. Vandenbeld.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Anita Vandenbeld Liberal Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

Having done that, my concern is that we have a meeting coming up on March 8, and as far as I understand, there isn't anything on the agenda for that meeting right now.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

This is on the agenda for the meeting.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Anita Vandenbeld Liberal Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

So we would have a two-hour meeting to discuss simply—

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

No, only a one-hour meeting because we have to leave early for the international women's event.

Ms. Sahota.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON

Does Ms. Harder's motion even exist? Is it on the table? It wasn't circulated 48 hours ahead in writing, you know, all of those.... It was a verbal motion made at that point, so are we going to come back to that motion or even be able to have it amended?

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

I think we will come back to that motion. My understanding is, chronologically, that she made the motion before we had a 48-hour agreement, and we accepted the motion. Then when the steering team met, we decided that we would go with the 48-hour deal, so that's why I think the motion is still there, and we will talk about it.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON

But anything that the steering committee decides, does that not have to come before our full committee before it gets...? That was something that was discussed last time.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

That's true. Anything that the steering committee talks about has to come back here, and that's why we're having committee business today.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Anita Vandenbeld Liberal Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

Sorry, I have another clarification from the clerk. They are saying that there's a motion on the table. It is in order because at the last meeting we didn't have a 48-hour rule. Then, that motion can be brought forward but it cannot be amended.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

No, no, it certainly can be amended.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Anita Vandenbeld Liberal Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

Okay. Although the mover of the motion seems to have withdrawn putting the motion right now, I just wanted clarification.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Yes.

Ms. Damoff.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

We're going to have a full hour next time to do this. I'm wondering, in the interest of having something else to consider at that meeting, if maybe the analyst could put together some information on violence against young women and girls, cyber-bullying, to give us a bit of a report. We don't have to commit to a study on it, but perhaps we could have some more information to review prior to the next meeting, along the lines of some of the things that we have discussed that were in that.

Would there be any objection to that? It's not committing us to anything.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Ms. Malcolmson.