I've more or less already answered this question. Ms. Ludwig asked it: essentially, what do you say to small business owners?
We go back to saying that, as it stands right now, wages stagnate, people are taking on more debt, people don't have disposable income in the way they need to have it to actually sustain an economy properly. There are all sorts of economic problems that arise out of low wages, beyond the idea that the value of labour is purely determined by the market. I guess indigenous women just deserve to make significantly less than white men, and it's just the market dictating that. No, I'm sorry, that's not true. There are all sorts of other factors that go into it.
I would say to small business owners who are worried that we have to look at a larger economic picture, which might not always allay all their fears, and I would say that you get more economic demand when people make more money, when they have higher wages. Then they can buy more stuff, basically.