I think it doesn't go far enough. I think the explicit needs to be there.
We've reached out to judges, lawyers, and law firms, saying, “Hey, we need to do this training”, and they've said, “Oh, we had our unconscious bias training” or “We've had our diversity training.” Then we'd get a copy of what they did, and LGBTQ is three minutes. It's just not comprehensive.
The funny thing is that there are people who want to learn and they have mandated time that they have to spend every year to learn, yet they're not connecting with civil society.
There is another piece that I really want to mention. I can't speak for the other witnesses, but I do encourage them to speak out if this is their reality as well. We don't have any funding from Victim Services Canada. If I am doing this reach-out to lawyers, law firms, or judges, it's on the side of my desk. We would love to tap into this funding that is going out to these law societies and law organizations, which already have tons of funding to do this work. We would love that funding so that we can do that work.
Avalon is, in my experience, an exception. I've seen their work in Nova Scotia—incredible work, working with the judicial system—and I'm constantly in awe of them. I think they're one of the coolest groups. Again, none of us are funded to do this work, so the progress that some of us have been able to make has been minimal and limited. I just wonder, if you're doing this.... If we're funded to do that, it would make it a lot easier.