I think it's often a case of daily occurrences of bad decisions that just build on one another and make it difficult for women to move out of this life of violence that they are living, essentially.
I have a family court example of a judge providing time for his preschool children, very young children, whose contact with the dad was via Skype at nine o'clock, to accommodate his schedule.
That's the type of daily occurrence that has an impact on the bigger picture. I think that's where this training just has to have so many levels, different levels of understanding. Also, it needs to be put under an intersectional framework and a gender equity framework, because that underpins everything.