Evidence of meeting #6 for Status of Women in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was witnesses.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Meena Ballantyne  Head of Agency, Status of Women Canada
Linda Savoie  Senior Director General, Women's Program and Regional Operations Directorate, Status of Women Canada
Laura Munn-Rivard  Committee Researcher

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Yes. It could go to three depending on the length of questioning.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

I'm trying to figure it out logistically. If we wait until after March break then that means we only have two days to do the work plan. We don't have time to get witnesses called for April 16 or whatever that date is.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Yes. That's why the motion on the table is to hold meetings A and B at the next scheduled meetings of this committee, with the amendment being to refer the remainder to the steering committee. After the report, with the witnesses identified, they can come to this committee with a work plan once it's available.

What that means logistically is that we will have something to do if we have a meeting on March 24. We'll have something to do on April 12 for sure. We'll probably have a bit of carry-over into March 14, but we could use the rest of that time to flesh out and discuss the work plan that would be available well before that.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

We'd have to do the work plan on April 12 when we get back, because we're not here again. If we don't do it the week of March 23—

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Why wouldn't we do it the week of March 23?

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Sheila was asking for more time so that it wasn't March break. If it's not during March break then the witnesses come in on say March 21.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON

The analyst needs a week to do the—

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

She needs some time to put the list together.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON

We're still safe, I think.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

You have lots of time to put in witnesses, but you don't have lots of time for the steering committee to meet and do the work plan.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON

The steering committee can meet a week later.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

No, we can't.

If that's the case, I'm wondering if we either do the departments over three meetings, or we get the analyst to take some broad-based foundational types of witnesses to come to that third meeting. Then we'll have time.... Do you follow what I mean in terms of the dates?

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Yes, absolutely. I think if we planned that A and B would take three meetings then that gives us enough time for the steering team to meet. I think that's good.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

That's right. We need three meetings planned out is what I'm saying.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

The witness deadline wouldn't change. The witness deadline is still to be submitted by the middle of Wednesday.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

No, we're going to extend it.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Okay, so you're going to extend it now to which day?

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Sheila, when's a good time to extend it to?

4:50 p.m.

NDP

Sheila Malcolmson NDP Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

Even giving us until March 22 would mean staff could get back from the family break and be able to chew on it, unless it's going to be open-ended, in which case I don't need to hold anything up. I'd say a deadline of March 22 would be ideal. The analyst then has a week for analysis and translation. Then we can sit on it for a few days and meet the first day we're back.

In the meantime we've already invited these government panels to come. We have two or maybe three meetings to talk with them. There's a lot of material.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Quite frankly the public safety one, if we're talking about cyber-bullying, could probably be on its own.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

All right.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Do you know what I mean? That's a fairly broad one. There are a couple you can pair together, but it may be that we just take one completely for that aspect of it. I'll leave that up to you to figure out.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Sure...depending on their availability. All right.

To be in order we have to do the amendment first. The amendment is, and this will go to the subcommittee, that witnesses be submitted by Tuesday, March 22, and the work plan be referred to the steering committee to meet at the earliest possible occurrence.

That is the amendment. Is there any further discussion on the amendment?

(Amendment agreed to)

All right.

Now that we've voted on the amendment, we will vote on the original motion.

The motion is to hold the meetings A and B in the proposed work plan on March 24, April 12, and April 14.

Is there further discussion on that?

(Motion as amended agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We are getting in the groove on this.

There was another question that Ms. Malcolmson had brought about why we started on this one instead of GBA. I had thought that at a previous meeting, when we had the two of them there, it was the will of the committee to go on the first one. I would certainly entertain at this point discussion about what else you want to do with that.

Ms. Malcolmson.

4:55 p.m.

NDP

Sheila Malcolmson NDP Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

I don't recall a vote, and I didn't recall a conversation.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

There wasn't a vote, for sure.