It's still the stigma, of course. But when I was going through my program, before I knew about Irving, it was child care. For transportation, where I live I have to cross the bridge, so it was money. It was financial, and just needing some mentorship and some motivation to know that I could do this. Also it was not knowing if I was going to have a job or employment at the end because it is so scarce in Halifax.
When Irving jumped on and did the pilot program, we had that light at the end of the tunnel, so it was more of a motivation for me to work hard and persevere through my two years because I knew I had my employment at the end. If there were more companies with that kind of support out there that would jump on with Women Unlimited, that's what makes us succeed. We've had 17 who succeeded so far in the last two years.