In your first two years, I'll say, you need 6,000 hours to go back to school to do your Red Seal. When you leave community college, you have a little over 2,000 hours. Then you go in and work with a company for the rest of the hours, and you go back and do your Red Seal.
In the first two years, you get four tickets, which are your stick and flux core tickets; you have flat and horizontal. In the second year, you do your vertical and overhead. So you do leave the school, hopefully.... You don't have to do them, but basically that's what they want you to have when you finish your two years of school.
I was fortunate enough to be hired by the school as a part-time welder for things they needed, and they gave me the opportunity to do my tickets without having to pay for them. You can train through the college. I came out with 11 tickets, so I have more than I need. I'm just going to work more.
They have a training facility at Irving, so once I am there, or if I am there, I will obviously be training to get more tickets and some specialty tickets, as well. Once I reach my 6,000 hours in the apprenticeship program, I go back to school for seven weeks and I do my Red Seal.