I think there is so much that can be done. I really do. We're at 5% and that hasn't changed in 20 years.
Truly, both in small and medium-sized businesses as well as in large initiatives, the workplace culture is the issue and recruitment and hiring is the issue. Women are so incredibly under-represented, yet at the top of their trades and technology programs. There has to be a really considerable effort done on both procurement and diversity hiring.