I think Doreen probably spoke to that quite a bit as well, but there is that stigma around women in trades. There are not role models in place, or there are very few, for them to see themselves in those roles. It's not something that's encouraged at a young age or that students see as an opportunity, so having role models there will help.
Another project we've undertaken is some research through the Institute for Ocean Research Enterprise. Dr. Sherry Scully did a study with students across Nova Scotia on their awareness and perceptions of jobs in the marine industry and trades. Having that research, and hopefully, rolling that out to other provinces in the coming years also informs us of the perceptions and the barriers, what needs to take place to expose women and girls to careers in trades, careers in STEM, and how we can bring them in.