I think it's the true partnership of it all. When Doreen was saying that they built their program with industry and with government and with the college, we found the same in our pathways to shipbuilding program. There are 10 partners in that program—government departments, unions, our local Mi'kmaw Native Friendship Centre—and having everyone in the room on an equal footing from the beginning is quite helpful.
We know that government can't fund all of the programs and all of the NGOs, but where can government come in to assist? Doreen mentioned she has Status of Women Canada funding for programs with training and advancement pathways. We're working with her now to make sure that, as I said before, the women are retained at Irving Shipbuilding. We want to know how to look at our current practices and improve them, so that we can retain these students and keep going.
From my perspective, it is the partnership and being in the room together to figure out what each organization can do and where programs exist already, where funding exists already, where there are needs, and how we can come together in the most efficient manner. We don't need to reinvent the wheel. We can champion these programs as a unified voice.