Thank you to the witnesses. I found it very interesting and informative.
My son is a doctor of microbiology, and he was in the position of deciding, do I continue on in academics and doing the research, or do I go to industry? It's a difficult choice. He stayed in his research, but it's very competitive, looking for those research funds and it's becoming more and more difficult. Whether it's a man or a woman, it's a difficult field to be in.
I have a question for Ms. Bakker in regard to supportive roles. You've alluded to people who are working, but unpaid, and making it possible for someone else to work and make those funds. Could you elaborate on that a bit?