Perfect. I really do appreciate that.
I want to move over to Caregivers Nova Scotia. I really do appreciate all you have put in today. Thank you very much.
The thing is that we do have a lot of common ground, but some of the things we're looking at may be a little different. This actually is for both Tamara and the caregivers association. When we talk about it, we talk about the roles of families. It is really important that we find the common ground here. We're not always going to agree on everything, but let's find the common ground.
One of the first things I want to find out is where that line is in the grey zone when we talk about the difference between family responsibility and the role of the state. We can say that the government should be paying for our children to go to child care and should be paying for everything when it comes to families putting family members into seniors homes. Then we talk about housecleaning and maintenance as well. I recognize that sometimes those are additional services. I guess part of my issue is when it becomes the responsibility of a person versus the responsibility of the state. Could you define that? We just need to have that broader discussion, please.