Iris, I think you're reading my mind. You talked about women in those leadership roles. We know that Cargill has female leadership. Farm Credit Canada has female leadership. I'm thinking of the Walker farms in my area. Shelley Doan does all the exporting of her Holstein cows.
I'm from 4-H, so the fact that I'm classy is funny. But it's one of those things. When we talk about those programs, I remember being in 4-H in the early eighties, and there was home economics for most of the girls. There was the beef. I actually showed a Limousin, so I was on the beef side. It was really funny, because there was that disparity. Now when I go to the 4-H shows, I find that there are a lot more women.
We talked a lot about things when it comes to whether it's going to be government or peer to peer. Having quotas is another question that I have for you too.
I'm going to start off with Iris, because I have another question for Dorothy.
Were quotas ever used in the implementation of some of these women in the higher-ranking roles in national organizations such as Cargill and Farm Credit Canada? Were those quotas, or was the selection of the person merit-based?