Iris, it's great that you say that. I always looked at my dad, and it didn't matter whether you were a boy or a girl, you could work on the farm. Sunday afternoon was my day to pick up the turkey eggs, wash the turkey eggs, and get them prepared to go off to P and H on Monday morning. I totally understand that. A hand is a hand, and it didn't matter. That was our role.
Dorothy, you mentioned the blind copy and potentially using that when someone is looking at resumés. It's funny that you said that, because in St. Thomas, there's a gentleman by the name of Bob Pate. His name is really Bahvan Patel, but when he came to Canada, in order to get hired, he thought it was necessary to change his name. When he went back just a few months ago, I was so proud of him, because I think one's name doesn't matter, and that's really important and critical.
What can we do? I think there is that unconscious bias. I think we do know that. Is there a process that we can put through in the private sector and other sectors so that it's not...? I'll be honest. Although I was in supply management, I'm not a quota girl. When we're looking at that, I would really like it to be merit-based. Whether it's for new immigrants or for women, what would you recommend when people are choosing to somebody to be employed?