Okay.
To go back to me again, I would like to say that while my colleague may look fondly back on the previous governments, I for one don't want to go back to a time when I had to have a male colleague ask the head office for permission for me to attend a meeting with him, or go back to 1993, when women with disabilities couldn't vote. I think it's important for all of us to recognize where we are but to be looking forward in trying to make the changes we can make going forward.
Dorothy, you brought up the blind applications, but our government actually is doing that as a pilot to see if and how that changes this. We can talk about merit-based all we want, but as I've heard quite often from colleagues in business, if it came down to a man or a woman, they would hire the man, because a young woman is going to have children. There's a natural bias against hiring women.
One of the things I've heard a lot is that young girls are taught not to take risks. You mentioned the science class, where the boys have their faces in the test tubes and the girls are taking notes. I wonder how important you see risk-taking at a young age so that later on in life, whether in business or politics or science or engineering, a woman will take that leap of faith to apply for that job, or in agriculture a woman will say “yes” and get out there and do it.
How important is it that young girls are not protected, are not taught to not take those risks or leaps of faith? I'd like both of you to answer that. Is there anything we can do to help instill that in young women?