I would urge the federal government to focus on legal aid as opposed to pro bono. I say that with no disregard for pro bono. It's actually a really important part of the access to justice picture, but I think we have a very robust pro bono culture in the bar in Canada. There is more that can be done, but I don't think that's where the problem lies. The problem lies—
On October 31st, 2017. See this statement in context.