In Canada it's a huge challenge. We still have a culture, particularly in the university system, that is somewhat antiquated. When I look to my colleagues in Australia and the U.K., I see very engaged, very active male leaders in all sorts of professions and sectors who will step up and speak to these issues.
Australia has a great organization called Male Champions of Change. It's men, leaders of all the industries—mining, banks, Qantas—who say, “We get gender equity and we are going to meet four times a year”. They release reports. They just released a report on gender equity in STEM. They have come together as male leaders to say, “We are going to speak to this. We're going to promote it.” We don't have anything like that in Canada.
The presidents of the universities just finally came out with a statement. It was okay. It wasn't nearly as bold as it should have been, so that's an area where we have a lot of catching up to do in Canada. We really need to see men have courage because there's a lot of backlash. I've received a lot of backlash, and men who stand up and speak to this issue receive a lot of backlash. We have to move beyond that. We have to engage men in the conversation.