CSC is flexible about how many women it would need in order to start a program. Normally, they like to hold a program with about eight or 10 women, because they use a sharing approach, but they have been running their programs with four or five. They are flexible in that.
In some of their institutions, say in Atlantic Canada, there were maybe only two or three indigenous women. We noted in our audit that there were six offenders one year who had all been working with the elder but none of them had participated in indigenous programs, which we would have expected them to if they were working with an elder and had a healing plan documented in their file.
It's a matter of CSC ensuring that they can ramp up the resources for these women. Technically, these programs are available at each of their institutions. We just didn't necessarily see them being offered where we would have expected them to be offered.