Absolutely.
In our healing lodge and in our institutions, we contract with elders from the community, so the offenders get to know them. If they go back to their community, the elders can continue to work with them.
It's very important as well that our elders provide teaching and counselling, but they're also part of our program delivery. For women, they are there 100% of the time for the program delivery. Absolutely, it's very beneficial.