Just from my research, there are limitations in programs within the institution to help with support. I know when a child is first born, there is an access, a mother-child program. What I was speaking to was the connection of technology streams that would actually bring the family to the woman who is incarcerated.
It's one thing to come and visit in person, but it is an institutionalized environment, where children would no doubt be traumatized by what they're witnessing. I was speaking on the technology side, which is kind of what we're doing here. You can see that your parent is there. You can see your children.
We need the support, obviously, from the Ministry of Children and Family Development. If the child is in care, you need it from foster parents. You need it from grandparents, if they're raising their grandchildren. There's a whole extension of children involved here, but I believe that waiting until a woman is released from the institution is too short-sighted. It really needs to happen throughout the whole period of time that the woman is incarcerated.