This is why I mentioned the victims. Often the crown would take the position that they are advocates for the victims, not the accused. I think that in itself is a problematic outlook. This is why I was saying that it's really important to change the way we think about justice, because even the crowns themselves think about themselves as in opposition to the defence. That's not necessarily the best way to deal with things, especially when it's a perpetual problem that's caused by all these social and political issues. It seems like an “us versus them” thing: “I'm not here to help the accused; I'm here to put them in jail.”
I'm not speaking about all crowns, but we found some who were absolutely not interested in even talking about it.