So it hasn't been done?
Evidence of meeting #98 for Status of Women in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was businesses.
A video is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #98 for Status of Women in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was businesses.
A video is available from Parliament.
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Liberal
Bill Morneau Liberal Toronto Centre, ON
I will repeat again that carbon pricing, from the federal government's standpoint, is a revenue-neutral measure that will, over the long-term, encourage behaviours that will help the environment for all Canadians.
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Calgary Nose Hill, CPC
In that case, you can table the gender-based analysis of the carbon tax with this committee.
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Liberal
Bill Morneau Liberal Toronto Centre, ON
What I will tell you is that the approach we've taken is one that will enable all Canadians to be—
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Calgary Nose Hill, CPC
I'll take that as code for, “No, it hasn't been done.”
My question is, if there's a whole-of-government approach to gender-based analysis, and you're imposing a brand new tax on all Canadians, and we know there's a pay equity gap for women and that many women bear disproportionate costs of child care, why would you not do a gender-based analysis of the carbon tax?
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Liberal
Bill Morneau Liberal Toronto Centre, ON
As I've said, we recognize that the way to get to behaviours that are going to ensure that we properly consider environmental impacts over time—
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Calgary Nose Hill, CPC
So would you say that the carbon tax is sexist?
Well, would you?
Has there been a gender-based analysis? I'm just wondering.
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Liberal
Bill Morneau Liberal Toronto Centre, ON
As I've mentioned, we put in place the carbon pricing approach to deal with the long-term environmental impacts of carbon, and we recognize—
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Calgary Nose Hill, CPC
If you've done no gender-based analysis of it, and we know that women bear disproportionate costs for child care, on things like driving kids around and paying for transportation and food, I would have to argue that the carbon tax is sexist. Do you have any evidence to prove otherwise with your gender budget?
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Liberal
Bill Morneau Liberal Toronto Centre, ON
As I've said, the federal carbon pricing is revenue-neutral, from the federal government's standpoint. It's one that will drive behaviours—
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Calgary Nose Hill, CPC
How can it be revenue-neutral for women if you haven't done a gender budget of it?
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Liberal
Bill Morneau Liberal Toronto Centre, ON
I can just tell you that we've put in place a measure that will allow us to return those revenues to the provinces.
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Calgary Nose Hill, CPC
So you are saying that you're actively pursuing a sexist carbon tax.
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Calgary Nose Hill, CPC
So then why haven't you done a gender-based analysis of it?
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Liberal
Bill Morneau Liberal Toronto Centre, ON
I can just repeat what I've said, and that is that we've put in place carbon pricing that will enable us to have a long-term positive environmental impact.
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Calgary Nose Hill, CPC
I know there are a lot of moms who are filling up the tanks of their cars right now at $1.70, and they're going, “This doesn't seem like it's gender-based.” Will you commit to doing a gender-based analysis of the carbon tax?
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Liberal
Bill Morneau Liberal Toronto Centre, ON
We will commit to continuing with an approach that will allow us to price what we don't want—
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Liberal
Bill Morneau Liberal Toronto Centre, ON
—which is pollution, and that will help us with the environment in the long-term.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Karen Vecchio
Thank you very much.
Minister, I recognize that you said you have to leave at 5.
Ms. Ludwig, are you willing to give up your five minutes? I ask because the meeting would go to 5:05 if you didn't, since we started at 4:05
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Liberal
Karen Ludwig Liberal New Brunswick Southwest, NB
I do understand the minister has a commitment at 5.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Karen Vecchio
I just wanted to make sure everybody had their fair time, so everybody's good with that.
I would like to thank you very much, Minister Morneau, for coming here today and answering our hard questions from all sides. We do appreciate your time here. As you said, it is historic. It's the first time we have had the finance minister here. Thank you very much for coming and sharing your time with us.
I just have a couple of reminders.
The Minister of Status of Women will be appearing at committee on May 24. She'll be here for one hour, and the second hour will be with departmental officials. Also, starting tomorrow, we'll get back to the study and report stage, in camera, of our study on indigenous women.
The meeting is adjourned.