Very good. I'm really sorry, but that's the end of our time for this panel. I told you I would try to be kind.
I want to thank all of our witnesses. We could talk to you all day. You're all very experienced, so thank you for that.
We're going to switch gears and go to our second panel, which is on long-term care.
Today we have with us Tracy Smith-Carrier, an associate professor at King's University College at Western University; and Michelle van Beusekom, who is with Protect People in Long-Term Care.
Each of you will have five minutes, and we'll start with Tracy.