I can start but I'm sure Ms. Morgan will have a lot more to say than I will.
We have a university in northern Ontario and we have an indigenous learning centre so that people can feel comfortable. They have to feel comfortable and there is a trust component. When you can speak in the language of your choice, your trust level is a lot higher. If you and the person you are dealing with are able to communicate with each other, you can learn. You're immersing yourself.
A lot of times it's a new city but you're still getting some sense of your home community. You have to transfer it over. If you're going to southern Ontario and there's no francophone program, you're going to be outside the realm of what you know, what you've grown up with and what you've gone to school with.
What's frustrating to me is when the university talks about seeing if they can transfer students into different programs. Well, you know, students don't go to school to be midwives and then be transferred into nursing. They want to be midwives. Now those barriers have been created—you've heard this, Ms. Morgan—so they have to make a choice. That choice is about not training in the language of their choice versus wanting to be a midwife. That's a horrible choice to have to make.