Madam Chair, that's a good question. It's important because as chaplains, we welcome any person. It could be the victim, but it could also be the perpetrator. They can come forward and ask for help; it's possible. That's why it is so important to be.... Of course, the same person cannot do both sides, but we can provide support to any people who come forward.
We are not alone. We are working together. We are working with the police and with the SMRC. Dr. Preston and I have bilateral meetings regularly that look into the training of the chaplains, because it's important. We cannot say that the chaplains are trained and it's over. We need to make sure they have the trauma training and that they are up to date so they know of all the supports and can provide support to the perpetrators of the difficult situation.