I find it fascinating, at least in Ontario, where I'm a member of Parliament, that midwifery services have been delivered for 30 years, yet there is this constant push-back and there isn't recognition within hospitals that there is this underpayment. Again, in Ontario, they've been fighting for pay equity. They've actually been working through the Human Rights Commission for pay equity.
Ms. Giroux, you spoke about that specifically. Is there a similar movement in Quebec? Are Quebec midwives looking at that? You specifically addressed pay equity as a huge deterrent to attracting some midwives as well.