First of all, I think we all agree that child care needs to become more affordable and that we have to help parents far more.
The most affordable form of child care is what we have right now, Ms. Mathyssen, and what we need is more money. The Canada child benefit is fantastic. Frankly, even though I wrote an op-ed in the Globe that said “Fund the child”, I would have done it differently. I would have given the second child half the amount as opposed to the full, because there's an economy of scale in raising children and you would then.... No, no, no, it's not that the second child is not as important. It is that the money could have been redeployed more broadly.
We need refundable tax credits, but there is not.... Unfortunately, I think the people you heard from in the summer.... What does “an expert” mean? I see that the hand-picked advisers to the Liberal government.... I know the information that they are giving the government, and it is not accurate. It is not full. It's—