Unfortunately, there are not a lot of them. There are very specific ones. There are ones like Warriors Against Violence in Vancouver and the Change of Seasons programs in Vancouver, which are often for adjudicated folks, but there is not a cadre of programs and services at the ready.
We find guys who will go, “Oh, this is something I need to think about more.” There's a lot of capacity, I think, for people to just get to that first step. Once they're there, there are a lot of supports in communities. I find men will hold each other and support each other in these conversations.