They need to be involved, because they need to learn about the issue themselves properly. They need to be taught. They need to do their jobs.
I have to say that there's a distinction: I have had a better time and better luck in having these conversations with the first nations police forces. The non-indigenous ones have been very difficult. It's been hit-or-miss. That's why I feel that they also need to stay involved. They need to know what their role is and support the families properly, but they can't do it solely.
We see what's happening with Thunder Bay policing and the things that are coming out there. That's just an example. I would say that an inquiry like that, or an inquiry into policing, needs to happen, because this has been the common thread for our people. It's not just for this issue; it's for our people across this country. It's disparaging....