Yes. I did allude to this in my earlier presentation.
In this particular instance, in this particular example, we were called to the home. Women helped this mom and spouse pack up all her things with her children while we sat on each side of this fellow on the couch in the home. He knew not to move. We were there to bring safety to that process.
In that moment, he did feel shame. He did feel regret in that moment. Once his family had packed up and left, we were able to turn to him. Through his tears, he committed to come to work with us, and he has.