I agree we need to [Technical difficulty—Editor] particularly in the case you highlighted that I talked about in 2017. The judicial system failed. Judges need to understand that this is part of the system. No matter how much you might want to avoid it altogether, you can't necessarily. If you're leaving you have a custody dispute about where your kids are going to be.
People interpreting family law have to be taught about coercive control. Those two little girls would still be alive if the judge had understood coercive control and not missed what were some pretty serious red flags.