That's very interesting.
Another topic you touched on in your opening remarks was conversion therapy. I know you care deeply about this issue. The federal government passed a law to ban these therapies and, in response to that law and to see how things were going, you organized a symposium on these therapies at the beginning of the year. I would like you to comment on your findings. We realize that it is still very easy to circumvent the law, especially for religious groups. Is that correct? Is that consistent with the initial findings?