Thank you so much, Madam Chair.
I have another question for Royal Ottawa Health.
In your testimony, you spoke about police in mental health involvement. In the city of Winnipeg, we currently have a pilot project. It's called the ARCC program. It's an alternative response. It's in partnership with the Winnipeg Police Service and Shared Health's crisis response centre.
Here's the thing, though. In the city of Winnipeg, we have very fractured relationships between the indigenous community and the police services. Although I think it's well meaning, one of the issues I see—and I brought it up with one of the community police officers—is the fact that the initial response is still a police officer who assesses whether it's safe for the mental health worker to go along with the police officer. I feel like it's the same response. If they don't behave properly, they're in a mental health crisis and they get arrested. The problem is that people will be hesitant to reach out when there's a mental health crisis if it goes to the police rather than getting people who are actually qualified to deal with it.
I know you mentioned it. I don't know if you agree with me. It just seems like we can't police our way out of a mental health crisis. We need to invest in real mental health services with mental health specialists, action therapists and the like. Do you agree? Do you disagree? Why or why not?