I can start.
I don't know what a trafficker looks like. I don't know if you know what a trafficker looks like. I think it's a ridiculous notion to assume that we could ever know what a trafficker looks like, when all of you are using definitions of trafficking that aren't actually the same.
I will go back to the idea that nobody's saying not to use law enforcement in any way whatsoever, but there are certain laws at law enforcement's disposal that are actually causing harm to people in the sex industry, like the sex work laws. It's not just to people in the sex industry, but to all people who sell or trade sex in general. It's the sex work laws, the loitering laws and the regulations in the IRPR, so it's a question of removing those laws and then simultaneously—