Thank you. It is a very complex question that requires the best of all of us.
I do see that there is a continuum. I acknowledge that there are those who identify as sex workers who have high autonomy, no trauma history, no poverty and high negotiating control. However, that is a very small minority of people. The majority are in the survival or circumstantial sex trade and then trafficking.
I once looked at the confluence of the Fraser River and the Thompson River, at where those two rivers come together. The waters mix. It is very challenging. The men have told us that they cannot tell who's doing this because they need money to pay their rent, and they don't know if the person is being trafficked. It's very hard to figure that out.
We do need to really work on some of the bigger things. I support the call for a guaranteed livable income. We did a study once during the pandemic where we added money into women's household incomes and asked them what they thought. They said that if there were a guaranteed basic income, there wouldn't be a need for sex work. Right away, that tells us something right there—