Absolutely. It's certainly one of the things that we as an organization.... I know that many of the men's programs across Ontario, which are the ones I know the best, have relationships with local police departments or provincial police departments and other services that are there in our communities.
The other place that I think is really key for us to be thinking about is connecting with child welfare and how the families that we're talking about, the types of behaviours that we're looking at, show up in child welfare much earlier than they'll show up in a police report. In fact, when police go out on a call and there isn't necessarily evidence of a charge to be laid, they will make a referral to child welfare and move that investigation over there.
There are lots of opportunities to be working within our communities and within our broader provincial and federal communities to really begin to look at it. What are those intersectional points at which these families and these men come into our system? We know from our own research that we've done over the years that they show up in general practice offices with their doctors. They show up in child welfare situations. They show up in all kinds of places.
It's about working within those communities of service providers to actually grab these guys and begin to do that work with them. I think that work is absolutely informed by men who've gone through this process.