I hope you're okay if I respond in English.
It's devastating. We all have experience in our families, in our personal lives and with our friends. Intimate partner violence, as I said at the outset, is an epidemic in this country. We all want to do something about it.
I come from the experience that most of the people we work with, who are criminalized and who are in our prisons and our jails, have experienced intimate partner violence or violence of some kind. They continue to be punished and harmed by the way our criminal law is utilized against them, rather than for them. We come to any kind of legislative reform with this in mind, especially given that most of the people we work with are the most marginalized and vulnerable people in our societies.
We want to ensure that we do this very carefully....