Status of Women Committee on Dec. 11th, 2023

[Leslyn Lewis, Conservative, Haldimand—Norfolk, ON]

There are different pages in G-3. It does not deal only with page 2.

[The Chair, Conservative, Karen Vecchio]

That's what I was saying. I actually read that out, because G-3 had an impact on “Fear of domestic violence” and “Timeliness”, which is proposed subsection 810.03(5). I read those all out, indicating that we had issues. G-3 impacted all of these.

[Michelle Ferreri, Conservative, Peterborough—Kawartha, ON]

I think she's asking why we didn't vote individually on each one.

[The Chair, Conservative, Karen Vecchio]

It's because we cannot.

[Leslyn Lewis, Conservative, Haldimand—Norfolk, ON]

But we didn't even have a discussion on them.

[The Chair, Conservative, Karen Vecchio]

I agree. When we were having that discussion, we were talking about G-3 at the time.

G-3 is an entire one section.

[Leslyn Lewis, Conservative, Haldimand—Norfolk, ON]

I understand that.

[The Chair, Conservative, Karen Vecchio]

We went through it, and I read out every part of what pages were being impacted, and then, because it is one amendment, at any time, you talk specifically to what that amendment may be at that time on that clause.

[Leslyn Lewis, Conservative, Haldimand—Norfolk, ON]

Right, we were dealing with a subamendment that was—

[The Chair, Conservative, Karen Vecchio]

It was defeated.

[Leslyn Lewis, Conservative, Haldimand—Norfolk, ON]

No, it was withdrawn.

[The Chair, Conservative, Karen Vecchio]

It was withdrawn—sorry.

[Leslyn Lewis, Conservative, Haldimand—Norfolk, ON]

Then we were specifically speaking about the first paragraph and then, all of a sudden, there's a vote on the entire thing without further asking about whether or not—

[The Chair, Conservative, Karen Vecchio]

I did ask; trust me.

[Leslyn Lewis, Conservative, Haldimand—Norfolk, ON]

Were there other clauses?

[The Chair, Conservative, Karen Vecchio]

No, there is one amendment, but I listed out and provided detail on every single clause that was impacted. I went through all of those three pages, as indicated, that G-3 impacted. It was three full pages.

As I indicated, it was pages 2 and 3 and portions of 5 that were all impacted. I showed that all of these things were impacted.

[Leslyn Lewis, Conservative, Haldimand—Norfolk, ON]

I'm just not content with that.

I would like the record to show the objections that we had to the other clauses, because I think that should be on the record. There are a number of clauses that impact Bill C-21 and also Bill C-233. There are a number of clauses that impact other bills.

[The Chair, Conservative, Karen Vecchio]

Amendment G-3 does not have an impact on Bill C-233.

[Leslyn Lewis, Conservative, Haldimand—Norfolk, ON]

Are we not dealing with...? Maybe not in this one, but in general there are other provisions that deal with monitoring, etc.

[The Chair, Conservative, Karen Vecchio]

It's amendment G-3 specifically. We went through those. Those are all listed. It had to do with taking that language that we had, which we just accepted here, talking about changing some of those words to “any”, and it made it so that the entire thing, as Julia explained, had an impact on all of those other clauses from the change of words that we were using in the first section of that.

[Leslyn Lewis, Conservative, Haldimand—Norfolk, ON]

Even if you look at clause 8, there are huge impacts and things that are changed that we have not discussed, which is very important to the legislation.

[The Chair, Conservative, Karen Vecchio]

I'm not disagreeing with you.

[Leslyn Lewis, Conservative, Haldimand—Norfolk, ON]

I would like an opportunity to put that on record, because we're dealing with people's lives.

[The Chair, Conservative, Karen Vecchio]

The only way for that—

[Leslyn Lewis, Conservative, Haldimand—Norfolk, ON]

The vote could stand, but I think that I should have an opportunity to—