Absolutely. In the STEM and the skilled trades spaces, there hasn't been the investment made in making them safe spaces and inviting for women.
What we're seeing in engineering alone is that we have graduation groups that are about 40% women. I think at McMaster this year, half of the new entries into engineering are women. What's happening is about five to 10 years into engineering, women are leaving the sector and we're hearing horrible stories about discrimination, no space being created, what we call the quieter forms of discrimination, and the lack of leadership at the top level. Somebody—